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EMI Copy Control: EMI Australia COO defends technology
posted by Ben on Friday May 02, @02:52AM      
from the and-more dept.
Audio EMI Australia's Chief Operating Officer, Paul Robinson, has defended the company's Copy Control technology in an interview with Rocknerd. Robinson claims that playablility problems are extremely low and that Copy Control is reducing piracy; refuses to disclose which technology EMI is using; says EMI only applies the Copy Control symbol to discs that are copy protected; and lots more. Read on for the full interview.

Why did EMI pull the Copy Control forum?

We gave consumers the opportunity to use the forum for open feedback and discussion, both positive and negative. However, after a period of time the opportunity for discussion was abused and so we were forced to take down this forum. There is still opportunity for consumers to contact us via our email address [copycontrol@emi.com.au] should they have any issues.

With the forum gone, how does EMI plan to address consumer complaints in the future?

Via our email address - copycontrol@emi.com.au

Isn't it a fact that Copy Control discs may have problems playing in car CD players because those CD players are in fact CD-ROM drives?

EMI wishes to have its music heard by as many people as possible within a framework that protects the intellectual property rights of our artists and ourselves. We have received reports of playability issues but these have been extremely low [0.02%]. We are working with our technology partner to further improve our playability which is an ongoing process.

Is EMI confident that Copy Control discs are of merchantable quality under trade practices law?

Yes, absolutely. We also fully comply with the international guidelines set by the International Federation of Phonographic Industry.

Is EMI under ACCC investigation over Copy Control? The Age is reporting a complaint has been made - what contact with the ACCC has EMI had over this issue?

Absolutely not. We refer you to the ACCC's website http://www.accc.gov.au/media/mediar.htmmet

We met with the ACCC at the outset to explain our decision to protect our releases and took them through how we would be labelling our product to advise our consumers of this change.

Is Australia a test market for Copy Control?

Australia is not a test market. In Australia we made the decision to go with this technology based upon successful market trials in other countries. There have now been 100 million discs manufactured with this technology worldwide.

Has EMI got Copy Control mastering installed at DATA, EMI's Australian CD manufacturer?

Yes we have, and we see this initiative as crucial to protecting that business,and its employees from illegal activities that erode the legitimate market for CDs.

Which technology, under license from which company, is EMI using for Copy Control?

That information is confidential.

Why? Does EMI think it can achieve security through obscurity? If the technology's so good, what harm can disclosing it do anyway?

Disclosing the technology would undoubtedly make it more susceptible to hackers. Our technology is not 100% effective but we are working with out technology suppliers, based on what we learn from consumer feedback, to further improve the technology.

Analysis indicates some discs marked with the Copy Control logo are in fact just Red Book CDs. Isn't this misleading advertising?

We apply the logo only where we use the technology.

Copies of tracks made available on Copy Control discs are circulating on P2P networks anyway - doesn't this make the technology a little pointless?

The issue is that we must take initiatives to protect the intellectual property of our artists and ourselves when they are being disregarded. As we have stated, our technology is not 100% effective, but we are already seeing evidence that our CDs are not being commercially copied to the same levels as unprotected CDs.

I've had a few reports that Copy Control discs are easily burnt with currently available software anyway - what is EMI going to do about this?

We are constantly working, along with consumer feedback, to upgrade and improve our technology.

 

 
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"Copy protection" - can't be done (Score:2, Insightful)
by Dave Jetson (84) on Friday May 02, @01:11PM (#593)
The simplest way to do it would be just to do a 1-1 disk copy. Using Clone CD, for instance, which will copy any CD, including all of those software CDs and Playstation disks and so on, which have far more serious "copy protection" than any CD which is supposed to work in an audio CD player. And apart from anything else, I've also been able to convert "uncopyable" digital formats like WIndows Media files into digital audio and burn them to a regular audio CD using Total Recorder. As many people have stated, the only thing that this is going to achieve is to piss off genuine customers.
Respect your customers and they'll respect you (Score:2, Informative)
by Anthony (20) on Saturday May 03, @04:13AM (#598)
"We apply the logo only where we use the technology."

Absolute rubbish. There have been many verified reports of unprotected discs labelled as copy controlled, and I have one of them sitting right here in my desk (the "West Papua - Sounds of the Morning Star" compilation).

The above responses from EMI are symptomatic of a worrying trend in the record industry - namely, that of double-speak and obfuscatory bullshit spoken as though it was the unrefutable truth (a method emplyoed for years by banks, global mega-corporations and politicians). Why would anyone contact the Copy Control email address when they already know they're going to get a pre-packaged corporate edict as a response?

EMI constantly brags that "commercial copying" of their titles is dropping. If "commercial copying" (i.e. piracy) of their releases is the reason for Copy Control, then they're going about this the wrong way. Why piss off legitimate users who only want to listen to their purchase in their car, or MP3 portable, or on Minidisc?

Why does EMI's protection change the SCMS bit in the audio stream to prohibit digital recording to consumer devices? Surely "commercial" pirates are equipped with SCMS-free professional equipment? Surely "commercial" pirates know how to identify and neutralise the Copy Control method in use?

EMI rarely, if ever, mention non-comercial copying as a target, yet the "make a copy for a mate" syndrome is probably the only legitimate reason for having protection there at all. But the inconvenience it causes to paying customers makes any benefit there dubious in the extreme.

And the "secrecy" about which method they're using is hilarious. Everyone knows what it is, and since each protection method has unique characteristics it's hardly rocket science to find out.
    
    
    

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